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Where were you when you heard the news?
Throughout his life, Jeremy has listened to high school teachers, college professors, and his friends’ parents discuss this question. Where were you when you heard that Pearl Harbor had been bombed, that JFK had been shot, that the Twin Towers had fallen? Most people’s lives contain at least one such historic moment, a freeze frame they recall in vivid detail and can relive at will, and sometimes all unwilling.
Two days ago, most of the people sitting in Rosemary’s living room right now would have said that their moment was 9/11. Jeremy remembers 9/11, but only as a blur of drawn adult faces and incomprehensible images on the television, which his mother quickly turned off and lugged into the garage. He remembers the event, but it was mediated through other people’s reactions. It was theirs, not his.
His moment has now arrived: a personal cataclysm, not a national one, but every bit as shattering. He knows that for the rest of his life, he will remember exactly what it felt like to rush through the rain to his English 101 class while a Spanish-accented voice on his cell phone informed him, both urgently and haltingly, that his mother was dead.
Because they’ve now all talked about it, he knows what the others will remember, too. VB will remember learning of Melinda’s death from that same voice when Jeremy pressed his cell phone on her in class. Mother Hen—Henrietta Alphonse-Smith, the priest at Mom and Aunt Rosie’s church—will remember being called away from a late supper of salad, grilled cheese, and cream of broccoli soup to answer a call from Veronique, voice stuttering and breaking. Rosemary will remember Hen’s strained, quiet words on the other end of the line in the ER. “Rosie, I have terrible news.” Tom Duquesne, Melinda’s attorney and a fellow parishioner at St. Phil’s, will remember answering his phone to hear Rosemary sobbing on the other end.
“Can’t be,” Jeremy says now. He’s sitting on Rosemary’s couch clutching a glass of water he hasn’t been able to drink. The water shakes and shivers in his hands. He watches the dancing ripple, as broken and refracted as he feels. He can’t think, can’t form coherent sentences. Language has broken.
Someone, maybe Mother Hen, has put a sweater around his shoulders. He hates being in this house because it reminds him of Uncle Walter, who no longer knows that Jeremy is his godson or that Aunt Rosie is his wife. Being in his own house—Mom’s house, filled with Mom’s stuff—would be worse. “Can’t be. It’s someone else.”
This has to be a mistake.
Tom clears his throat. He’s a tall, skinny man, slightly stooped, his remaining hair gray. He wears glasses and cardigans. He’s always reminded Jeremy a little of Mr. Rogers. Right now, he’s paler than Jeremy has ever seen him. “No. Jeremy, I’m sorry. It’s not a mistake. I called the local police, and then I talked to people at the American consulate. Your mother’s dead.”
No no no. “Someone else,” Jeremy says doggedly. Has to be.
Tom’s voice is distorted, too slow. “They have positive ID from her passport, and she was in her own room.” Tom’s voice breaks completely now.
VB stands up and starts pacing, but then she starts limping, so she sits down again. Once, Jeremy would have found this funny, although he’d have known better than to say so to anyone. VB shakes her head. “Someone broke into Melinda’s room and didn’t take her passport? What kind of robber is that?”
Tom clears his throat again and takes a breath Jeremy can hear even from across the room. “It wasn’t a robbery. The police don’t think any of her belongings are missing.” He looks away from all of them, out Rosemary’s living room window. “This is—it’s horrible, but you’re going to hear it on the news and people are going to be talking about it, so you need to hear it from me first.” He looks at Jeremy. “Do you want me to tell you privately? We can go in another room.”
Five minutes ago, Jeremy was so numb that he didn’t think he’d ever feel anything again, but now dread constricts his chest. “No. Not alone.” Hen comes to sit on the couch next to him. She reaches out her hand, but he ignores it. He’s using all of his energy to stay still, to stay sitting. “What?”
“All right.” Another breath. “She was raped and stabbed. The police think there was only one assailant.”
Where were you when you heard the news?
When Jeremy can think clearly again—when his thoughts have stopped scattering like small, terrified animals—he will realize that there are levels to this question, that cataclysm arrives in waves. Where were you when you heard that she was dead? Where were you when you heard that she’d been raped and stabbed?
All sound is muffled now, although no one else has spoken. Rosemary’s hand has gone to her mouth. VB isn’t sitting where she was just a minute ago. Jeremy hears a rasping noise, grinding gears on a car. VB’s retching into a wastebasket.
There’s a weight on his shoulder. Hen’s hand. “Jeremy?” He blinks, shakes his head. He can’t speak.
“I’m so very sorry.” That’s Tom. Jeremy sees his cheeks shining in the light. The light from the closest end table, and something else is shining there. A paperweight. There’s a flower in it.
He picked out the paperweight for Aunt Rosie’s birthday, a long time ago. He was little. Too short to see the tabletop where the paperweights were. Mom picked each one up and knelt down to show it to him. “How about this, Jer? Do you like this one?” Two flowers, pink and yellow. “Which one do you like better?”
Something moves jerkily across his vision. VB, going back to her seat.
“Do they know who did it?” That’s Hen. Her hand isn’t on Jeremy’s shoulder anymore. Her hands are clenched in her lap. They look more like fists. She sees him looking at her hands and they relax, unfold, press flat against the blue of her skirt.
“No. Not yet. But the police said there’s a lot of DNA evidence.”
“Oh, God,” Rosemary says. VB gags again, just once. Jeremy doesn’t yet realize consciously what this means, but Hen reaches for something on the floor. His glass. He dropped his glass. There’s water all over Aunt Rosie’s nice carpet.
A Christmas party here when he was seven or eight, with the special punch Jeremy loved, cranberry juice with ginger ale and cloves. He felt so grown up drinking it. Mommy said the punch would stain. He was very careful, but he still spilled some. Mom, frowning and disappointed. Aunt Rosie, reassuring him.
“I’ll wipe it up,” Hen says. “Jeremy, I’ll get it.”
* * *
Raped? Rosemary feels herself recoiling, shrinking into the couch, her mind slamming shut. And Jeremy hearing this, oh God, and he’s dropped his glass.
Hen gets paper towels, wipes up the water, and goes into the kitchen to throw the wet towels away. I should have done that, Rosemary thinks. It’s my house. But she can’t move. No one speaks until Hen gets back and sits down again.
A pause. Utter silence, into which Hen says, “Let us pray.”
Too late, Rosemary thinks. Too late. But she bows her head and tries to listen to the prayer.
Usually she loves Hen’s prayers, but she can only make out snatches of this one. We don’t know why. Pain and anger. Sin of vengeance. Thank you for Melinda’s life. Help her friends and family. Jeremy. Heal. Comfort. Bless. Amen.
Amen, echo Tom and Jeremy: even Jeremy, sitting dazed and blank on the couch. Veronique doesn’t respond to the prayer, but she wouldn’t. Rosemary doesn’t because she still can’t. How many times has she prayed like this with patients and families? She would have prayed this way with the family of the aneurysm patient, if she hadn’t gotten the phone call first. Would her prayer have sounded as empty to them as this one sounds to her? She feels herself checking for her usual sense of God’s presence, her soul a tongue searching for a missing tooth. She finds only a hole the size of a galaxy.
Voices, discussing. Jeremy doesn’t want to go back to the dorm tonight, doesn’t want to go back to the house. He’ll stay in Hen’s guest room; Hen calls her husband Ed to instruct him to make up the bed. When she gets home, she’ll activate the parish phone tree used in emergencies, which before now have never been more serious than a service canceled because of snow.
Tom, Hen, and Veronique talk logistics. Melinda would want to be cremated, but should that happen in Mexico, or the States? Less expensive to have her cremated there if no one objects, but does Jeremy—or anyone else—need to see the body for closure? Will the body be fit to be seen? Won’t someone have to go down to Mexico to make arrangements? And if the police catch Melinda’s murderer and there’s a trial, what then? Would she have wanted them to be there? Would there be any reason for them to be there?
“She didn’t believe in the death penalty,” Jeremy says. It’s the first thing he’s said since hearing how Melinda died. Rosemary’s heart twists. Does Jeremy agree with his mother’s position now, if he ever did?
Does Rosemary?
Tom shakes his head. “Mexico doesn’t have the death penalty. They won’t even extradite Americans who might face it for American crimes.”
“We could go down there and kill him ourselves,” Veronique says, and hearing the rage in her voice, Rosemary thinks she just might be capable of it.
Tom grunts. “Tempting, but hardly advisable. I don’t think life in a Mexican prison is any fun. We need time to absorb this. We need sleep. We’re all in shock. We can figure out next steps tomorrow.”
Tom and Hen leave, flanking Jeremy. Veronique goes into the kitchen and comes back out with a cup of tea that Rosemary didn’t ask for and doesn’t want. “You need to stay hydrated,” she says, putting it clumsily on the table next to Rosemary’s chair. Some tea has slopped into the saucer. Rosemary hates that.
Veronique and Rosemary have never been close, not as close as either of them was to Melinda. Vera’s trying to do the right thing. Rosemary knows that.
Rosemary stays in her chair, paralyzed. She wants Walter. If Walter were here, he’d know what to do.
There’s nothing to do. She knows that.
The phone rings. It’s Beth Adams from church, shocked and horrified, needing to talk, but Rosemary can’t talk. She can’t be a chaplain right now. Melinda was her best friend.
She hangs up. The phone rings again. She ignores the call and turns the ringer off. No more. No more tonight. No.
Veronique, hovering, trying to help but inept at it, and she needs help herself now; Rosemary knows that. She’s grieving too. Rosemary drinks the tea—herbal, peppermint—and lets Vera, lead her upstairs, lets Vera wait while she undresses and puts on a nightgown, lets Vera tuck her into bed like a child.
What time is it? Early, too early. The clock on her bureau says it’s only nine o’clock. It feels like three in the morning. It feels like a different year than the one she lived in this morning.
Veronique sees her looking at the clock. “Do you want the alarm set?”
“No. Thank you. I doubt I’ll sleep much, anyway.” A small, distant part of her brain knows that giving Veronique ways to be useful is the most healing thing she can do.
Rosemary herself can’t be useful. Even if she knew a way to be useful, she couldn’t manage it, and there’s nothing.
Veronique leaves. Rosemary closes her eyes, trying to block out the day, but instead she sees a bruised face, teeth missing, one eye swollen shut, a swathe of blond hair torn out, blood from a shoulder abrasion seeping onto a “Hello, Kitty!” T-shirt.
What was her name? Rosemary doesn’t remember, but she remembers the face and the story: the pretty young woman, attacked and abandoned in a downtown parking garage, who made her way to the hospital only to learn that she couldn’t be treated. Not here. Only one hospital in town was authorized to do rape exams.
Rosemary remembers a nurse ranting about the situation. “It’s horrible! They have to have someone specially trained, so they’ve decided to keep one ER staffed with those people twenty-four/seven. But I know how to do rape exams! I’d be happy to be on call just for that! How can they put this poor girl through that?”
Rosemary came home and told Walter about it. They didn’t know he was sick yet, although in retrospect the signs were there. Greater reliance on Post-it notes. More trouble with names. But that evening, Walter seemed completely himself. He listened to her story about the rape victim, and then he put his arms around her and hugged, rocking.
Melinda had helped Rosemary move Walter into the nursing home: had stood with Rosemary while they loaded him into the ambulance, had helped Rosemary unpack Walter’s things in the bleak pale room. And afterward, back here, Melinda had put her arms around Rosemary and hugged, rocking.
Shivering in her bed, Rosemary hugs herself. There’s no one else left to do it.
* * *
When Jeremy is eight or nine, Melinda reads Charlotte’s Web to him, one chapter each night before bed. He can read, but he’d rather listen, and she treasures the connection the ritual provides. She thinks he does, too. She delights in the rhythms of E. B. White’s language, the sheer joy of reading his prose aloud. She never smells cut grass without remembering White’s description of the barn, which “smelled of the perspiration of tired horses and the wonderful sweet breath of patient cows.” Jeremy doesn’t care about poetics, but he’s enthralled by Charlotte’s determined quest to save Wilbur.
Melinda’s read the book so often that she hardly needs to look at the pages. The edition she holds now, its pages foxed and wrinkled and spotted with miscellaneous stains, is the one she read during her own childhood, the title almost worn away on the cover and binding. Melinda was seven when White’s classic was published, nine when her parents gave it to her for Christmas. She spent months reading the book to the end and then turning back to the first page. Like Jeremy, she loved Charlotte’s quest, as improbable as mending the moon.
Of course she and Jeremy both cry when Charlotte says good-bye to Wilbur. Melinda thinks that anyone who can read the book without tears must lack a soul. “No one was with her when she died.” As well as she knows the story, Melinda’s voice cracks on that line, at the image of the deserted fairgrounds and the small gray spider, all alone.
And then the happy ending back at the farm, Charlotte’s descendants thriving and adopting Wilbur, although none of them “ever quite took her place in his heart.” Melinda knows the last chapter is necessary, but it never moves her as deeply as Charlotte’s death.
After Melinda has read the last sentence, Jeremy starts to suck his thumb—a habit he mostly broke a long time ago, but still slips into when he’s sad—and says, “Mommy, you’re never going to die, are you?”
Melinda takes a deep breath, savoring the fragrances of fresh sheets and wool blankets and newly-bathed boy. She’s known this topic would come up sometime. “Everybody dies, Jeremy. But most people don’t die until they’re very, very old. I hope I won’t die for a very long time.”
He was two and a half when she adopted him; he still dimly remembers the long plane trip from Guatemala. She’s always told him the truth about his adoption. Now he says, “Did my first mommy die?”
“I don’t know, sweetie. All I know is that she was very poor, and she wanted you to have a better, safer home than she could give you, so she gave you to the people who gave you to me. I don’t know what happened to her after that.”
In fact, Jeremy was found wandering in the rubble of a wrecked village, and his parents are almost certainly dead. But she won’t tell him that, not yet.
“Maybe she died, and you’re Wilbur. ’Cept you didn’t carry me in your mouth.” He giggles, but then grows pensive again. “Charlotte would have been happy that Wilbur took care of her babies after she died. So they’d be okay.”
“Yes, that’s right.”
“And my first mommy wanted somebody to take care of me.”
“That’s right. So you’d be okay.”
He reaches for her hand, his thumb moist against hers, but wrinkles his nose and looks away to show that the gesture belongs to some other, younger Jeremy. “If you die, who’ll take care of me?”
“Our friends. Aunt Rosemary and Uncle Walter and Aunt Veronique. But I don’t think I’ll die for a very long time, Jeremy. People live a lot longer than spiders do.”
He lets go of her hand, the thumb returning to his mouth. Around it, he says, “Katy killed a spider at school the other day. It wasn’t hurting anybody.”
“A lot of people are scared of spiders.”
“The teacher said some spiders hurt people, but this spider wasn’t one of those kinds. It was just building a web, but it wasn’t writing anything. I guess it wasn’t as smart as Charlotte.”
“I’ve never seen a spider as smart as Charlotte.”
“I was sad when Katy killed the spider. But the teacher said that if it was a bad spider, then we’d have to kill it, so it wouldn’t hurt anybody. Would a bad spider’s mommy be sorry if it died?”
“All mothers are sorry when their babies die. Jeremy, are you afraid you’re bad?”
“I’m talking about the spider. What if the bad spider’s mommy was dead, like Charlotte? Then she couldn’t be sad. But even if it’s a bad spider, how do you know if its mommy is alive? Or if it has babies?”
“You don’t,” Melinda says, stroking his soft dark hair. “But Jeremy, everything alive is someone’s baby. And all parents, whether they’re still alive or not, want their babies to live.”
A week later, during an informal get-together at Rosemary and Walter’s, Jeremy finds a house spider in the bathroom and sternly forbids anyone to kill it. Walter deftly transfers the creature to a piece of paper and takes it outside, as Rosemary and Melinda praise Jeremy for his compassion. Jeremy stays outside with the spider to make sure it’s safe.
When Walter comes back inside, Melinda tells her friends about the bedtime conversation. Walter and Rosemary have already promised to take care of Jeremy if anything ever happens to her. She had a new will drawn up when she adopted him, naming them his guardians in the event of her death.
But of course that’s just a precaution. None of them believe that anything like that will ever happen. By the time Melinda dies, surely Jeremy will be an adult with a family of his own.
* * *
Veronique splits a can of cat food between two bowls. She’s shaking so badly that she can hardly handle the fork. But the cats have to eat, and they can’t open the cans by themselves.
She almost asked Rosemary if she could stay there, crash in the guest bedroom, because she didn’t trust herself to drive. But she’d driven to Rosie’s, so of course she could drive back home. And the cats have to eat.
Has it really only been a few hours since she learned about Melinda?
Sillybeth and Nepotuk wind between her ankles, howling as mournfully as if they’ve never been fed in the history of the world. If she isn’t careful, they’ll trip her. All she needs now is a broken hip.
She uses the fork to mash and mix up the portions of cat food; the metal tines scrape loudly against the bottom of the stainless steel bowls. The noise sounds like a scream. Veronique wants to scream. She can feel the scream inside her, building like a sneeze.
But she’d scare the cats. They’re innocent; none of this is their fault. No fair to take it out on them.
Melinda was innocent.
Melinda was one of the most cheerful people Veronique ever met, and one of the kindest, and someone who could have smart conversations about books, which was how Veronique met her, at a reading group Melinda facilitated at the library where she worked as a reference librarian. Melinda was younger than Veronique. She shouldn’t have died first, and she shouldn’t have died that way. No one should die that way.
Except the bastard who did this. There is no death too vile or painful for him, and Veronique would gladly administer it with her own hands, which are still shaking as the fork screams against the metal and her rage screams inside her belly.
She realizes that she’s been stirring the cat food for minutes. She picks up the bowls and walks crabwise, stepping carefully around the cats, to the shoe tray where she always puts their food. Her hands are clenched so hard on the bowls that they hurt.
She knew even before Jeremy reminded them that Melinda didn’t believe in the death penalty; she knows that Rosemary doesn’t, either, and certainly Hen wouldn’t. Religious reasons. But Veronique’s not religious. Her parents weren’t perfect, but at least they steered clear of institutionalized superstition. Rosemary was raised in the church, and Veronique understands habit. She was always more mystified by Melinda’s reasons, since Melinda only began attending church as an adult.
She’d just started, in fact, when she and Veronique met. “Oh, I’ve been going to St. Phil’s, but it’s still mostly cultural anthropology. Fascinating, though, and there’s really good preaching there. Very literate. I think you’d enjoy it.”
Veronique thought not. She learned later that Melinda had helped Rosemary find an obscure article about first-century liturgy, and that Rosemary had invited Melinda to her church, and Melinda had accepted out of curiosity. Six months or so after Veronique met her, Melinda was long past the cultural-anthropology stage, and had gone native. She wasn’t pushy about it, though, so Veronique could stay friends with her. It was like learning that a sane, intelligent adult you admired liked to chew bubblegum or play hopscotch or make dress-up clothing for stuffed animals: incomprehensible, and a little embarrassing, but as long as the person didn’t insist that you partake of this bizarre hobby as well, friendly relations could be maintained.
She has to admit that the woman priest handled things well tonight; Veronique didn’t even find her prayer too offensive. But she supposes priests have a lot of practice at helping people through horror. How they reconcile that with their fairy tale about a loving God, Veronique can’t imagine.
The cats now have their heads safely ensconced in their food bowls. Veronique escapes to the living room and sits on the couch, but quickly finds herself back on her feet. When she sits still, she starts to think about what happened to Melinda, and then she feels sick. She doesn’t want to throw up again. She hates throwing up.
She has to relax somehow, or she’s going to be up all night. She doesn’t keep alcohol in the house, having had some bad run-ins with it when she was younger. She could listen to music, but that’s not enough. She needs something completely involving. She needs to read. Books have been her refuge since early childhood, a bulwark against the painful, messy world.
But she can’t read. Not now. She wonders how long it will be before even the sight of a book won’t remind her unbearably of Melinda.
* * *
Anna’s on the computer in the den, checking flights. One way from Cabo to Seattle, leaving tomorrow. William’s pacing with the cordless: every minute or so, regularly as a metronome, she sees him passing the den doorway, first one way and then the other. “It’s going right to voice mail,” he calls in to her.
“Leave voice mail, then.” She’s amazed at how reasonable the flights are: $272 even for the next day, and it’s not a bad itinerary. She clicks on a flight leaving Cabo about five and getting into Sea-Tac about ten. Alaska Air, by way of San Francisco. Not bad at all. She books it; Expedia has her credit card on file.
William crosses the doorway again.
She gets up, calves and back taut with tension, and walks into the living room. “Honey, give me the phone. I’ll leave him voice mail with the itinerary.”
“You bought the ticket already?” He squints at her. “Shouldn’t we check with him first?”
“No. I bought the ticket. He’s coming home.”
William cracks his knuckles, a tic he displays only under extreme stress. “What if he doesn’t want to? He isn’t a child anymore.”
“He’s my child,” Anna says, realizing with annoyance that her voice has grown shrill, “and he’s coming home.” She’s gone into Warrior Mother mode. Her son is in a dangerous place; she’s doing what she has to do to bring him back to the safety of the house, to get him back on the right side of the moat. She’ll bring him home and raise the drawbridge: Percy will never again vacation anyplace where someone has been murdered.
She’s completely aware that this is irrational, that this policy would keep him from going on any trips at all. At the moment, she doesn’t care.
William gives her the phone, but folds his hands over hers to keep her from using it. She senses him calming himself, knows that he’s picked up on her bubbling hysteria and realized that he has to be the sensible one. They’ve always been a good team that way, able to balance each other. “Anna, he’s fine. He’ll be fine. I’m sure there isn’t a maniac with a machete running around the resort. The woman who died probably knew the person who killed her, or it was a drug deal gone bad or something. Percy isn’t a target.”
She knows he’s right. At the moment, she doesn’t care. Castillo del Sol was supposed to be safe. She pulls her hands from his, extracting the cordless at the same time, and hits the redial button.
“Hi, this is Percy. You know what to do.”
Voice fraying, she leaves him the flight information, along with instructions to call home the minute he gets the message. “Dad and I love you. We need to know you’re okay. Bye.”
She hangs up, redials. Same thing. She doesn’t leave a message this time.
She wants to throw the phone across the room.
“Why,” she asks her husband, “does he have his phone off?”
William sits down now, sagging into an armchair. Bart, banished to his spot in front of the fireplace because he kept trying to follow his pacing master, bolts over and nuzzles William’s knee for reassurance. “Damned if I know. Maybe he’s trying to be responsible and avoid international rates?”
Anna almost laughs. “That would be a first.” Percy has gifts, but being sensible about money isn’t one of them. “He has to know we’re worried about him. He should have called us. This doesn’t make sense.” Now she’s the one pacing.
“Give me the phone. I’ll call the resort.” She does; he does, but after a minute he puts the phone down with a grimace. “All circuits busy. I’m sure every friend and relative of everyone staying there is as worried as we are.”
“Oh, God.” Anna flings herself into the chair next to his. Bart trots over to nudge her hand; she tolerates this and then pats him, knowing that he’s picked up on the emotions of his humans and needs reassurance. Poor thing. She can’t imagine not being able to speak.
Bart licks her arm and goes back to William. A minute later, he comes back to Anna.
Now the dog’s the one pacing.
“Let me take him for a walk,” William says, standing up. “He obviously needs to burn off some energy. So do I.”
Anna bites back her annoyance. “And what am I supposed to do?”
William rubs his eyes. “You could always come with us.” She knows that he knows she won’t. She hates walking the dog. She’s never walked the dog. She feeds the dog and makes sure he has chew toys and cleans up after him inside the house—mopping up fur, slobber, masticated bits of chew toy—but outside, he’s William’s and Percy’s.
As much as she enjoyed being alone before, she doesn’t think she could stand it now. “Please don’t leave right now, William. What if he calls? He’ll want to talk to you. I need you here. Please.”
“All right. All right.” He sits down again. “So what do we do instead?”
“I have no idea.” Bart’s come to her again, and, huge as he is, has crawled halfway into her lap. Aren’t Irish Wolfhounds supposed to be calm?
William stands up. “Anna, I can’t stand this. I need to move. We can both go: I’ll forward the house phone to my cell.” But just as he’s crossing the room to the dog’s leash, hanging on a hook by the door—it’s a measure of Bart’s loyalty or neurosis that he doesn’t remove himself from Anna’s lap at this signal for Walk—the phone rings. It’s much closer to Anna, but William gets to it first, because she’s weighed down by the dog.
“Percy! Oh, thank God.” Anna hears the relief in William’s voice, feels joy washing over her like a drug. “Are you all right? Where are you?”
She watches William’s face, sees him frown. “Okay. Okay, then. Right. See you soon.” He ends the call and says quietly, “He’s at the airport.”
“And you didn’t tell him about the flight? He must be there trying to book a ticket! William, honestly! Call him back and tell him—”
“Not the airport at Cabo.” William’s voice is oddly flat, and he’s still frowning. “He’s at Sea-Tac already. He called to see if we can pick him up.”