New York State Appellate Division
RECORDS AND BRIEFS
Q. That statement was untrue?
A. Actually it was untrue.
Q. And you were under oath, weren’t you, you know what I’m getting at now?
A. I was under oath.
Q. You made a false statement under oath?
A. I did.
Q. Now, you remember Ficalora, don’t you?
A. No, sir.
Q. You don’t remember him very well?
A. Only met him—met him and seen him a few times.
Q. How many times did you see him?
A. I seen him in the presence of John Tartarian.
Q. When and where?
A. Just passing in the car when I—in Queens.
Q. You what?
A. Just passing in a car.
Q. And you winked?
A. No, I said I seen him passing in the car with Tartarian.