2 G. E. L. Owen, ‘The Place of the Timaeus in Plato’s Dialogues’, Classical Quarterly, NS 3 (1953), 7995, argued for a much earlier date for Timaeus, giving philosophical reasons why it should be dated before the middle-period work Parmenides. H. F. Cherniss, ‘The Relation of the Timaeus to Plato’s Later Dialogues’, American Journal of Philology, 78 (1957), 225–66, replied to this, reasserting the orthodox view. While the issue is not entirely closed, the orthodox dating is generally accepted nowadays.