P. DECKER: I understand that you’ll speak when you’re ready, but your parents have already lost one child. It’d make them feel a lot better. D. SHIPMAN: It won’t. P. DECKER: Why do you think that? D. SHIPMAN: I’m a monster. P. DECKER: I see a young lady who did something very brave. D. SHIPMAN: I killed my brother. P. DECKER: To save the lives of two children. D. SHIPMAN: No one will ever look at me the same again.

—Dr. Philip Decker interview with multiple homicide survivor Danielle Shipman, November 8, 1980