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MAYA’S INTERVIEW UNEDITED SEGMENT

Hello, friends. I’m back, earlier than expected, because something happened last night. I met Lucy at a local bar—which you all know already, because you’ve seen the pictures on Twitter. Yes, we were having a drink, and no, it’s not nearly as scandalous as you all seem to think it is.

As we were leaving the bar, Matt pulled into the parking lot and got out of his car. Here’s what happened.

[scuffling noises]

“Hello, Matt.”

“You son of a bitch, I should wring your neck.”

[scuffling, grunting]

That sound you hear? That’s Matt punching me in the face.

“I am going to sue you for every penny you’re worth.”

“I’ll give you my lawyer’s number. Can you take your hands off me, please?”

[banging noise]

Matt slams me into the car here.

“Matt!”

That’s Lucy. She’s standing nearby as this happens.

“Beverly is a [inaudible], and that one is a fucking liar!”

“That one” refers to Lucy here, because he points at her.

That’s the general consensus, right? Lucy is lying. Lucy is hiding something.

Well, we’ve already established that Matt is lying too—he wasn’t at home the night Savannah died, even though he told police that he was.

And Kyle Porter suggested on this podcast that something might have been going on between Savannah and Matt. Savannah’s younger sister, Maya Harper, gave me a piece of her mind about that.

Maya:             Savvy never slept with Matt. It’s bullshit that Kyle said that, and it’s bullshit that you put it on your podcast.

Ben:               Okay. Can you tell me more about that?

Maya:             About how you’re an asshole?

Ben:               About why you think it’s bullshit that Savvy slept with Matt.

Maya:             She hated Matt. The first time she told me about Lucy, she said all this nice stuff about her and then goes, “And she’s married to this total dipshit who kept looking at my boobs when I talked.”

Ben:               And her opinion of Matt didn’t change over the next couple years?

Maya:             Nope. But even if it had, she never would have slept with her friend’s husband. She wasn’t like that. Savvy loved Lucy, and she never would have hurt her.

Ben:               What makes you think that Savvy never warmed up to Matt? She talked to you about him?

Maya:             She said some things. She’d mention him offhand occasionally, like, “She couldn’t get rid of Matt, so I had to have dinner with him too.” Stuff like that. And she … well, this is just my interpretation, but I think Savvy thought that something was going on with Lucy and Matt.

Ben:               Going on?

Maya:             Like … something abusive? I don’t know. Maybe I got it wrong. But not long before she died, we were watching this show together, and there was a story line about an abusive husband. And I looked over at one point and she was rolling her eyes, and I was like, “What?” She said that they were portraying the guy to be this total monster, and that wasn’t what those guys are usually like.

And I got kind of concerned, and I was like, “How do you know what those guys are like?” And she goes, “Oh, not me, not me. But I know someone. And the guy … a lot of people like him.”

I didn’t ask if it was Lucy. But it had to be. Savvy wasn’t close friends with anyone else at that point. And she said know, not knew. “I know someone.” I’d always wondered why Savvy had this, like, burning hatred of Matt when everyone else seemed to love him. It made sense suddenly.