Speaking of Yale…
Once upon a time, there was a young boy who graduated from Yale. Full of Boola Boola Eli Yale Optimism from the experience of producing
Rappacini and directing
The Girl Who Returned1 while still a naïve young thing
2 in school, he dusted the moths off his bar mitzvah suit and decided to go and make a movie with sync sound for fun with friends to create a piece of art, rake in some money, and have a good time. Just call me “Candide.”
Hear ye, hear ye, all movie makers and producers with stars in your eyes: I am going to let you in on a little-known secret that myself, my producing buddy Oliver Stone
3 (a childhood friend) and Garrard L. Glenn (a Yale friend) were lucky enough to discover early on as we set out to raise the money for
Sugar Cookies (budget: $100K smackers). Your dentist is filthy fucking rich and dying to be part of the creative business of making movies.
Just think about it. Dentistry is ranked as being a profession with one of the highest rates of suicide. Patient after patient, cavity after cavity,
4 day after day, old women and old men recline in a chair with their mouths wide open
5 and have havoc wreaked upon
6one of the most sensitive areas of their entire bodies
7 as gums are rubbed and teeth are yanked all for that goal of attaining that million-watt smile. Being that no conversation or exchange beyond “‘At ertz” and “Feeeeeez stahp dat” and “Moh vutah” are possible, just where is your dentist to get his/her necessary dose of human interaction and artistic fulfillment that feeds the soul?
PRODUCING LESSON #127: Don’t be afraid to talk to everybody and anybody who will listen about your idea for the awesome movie you want to make. You never know who’s going to cough up some cash for your production.
Your dentist is going to get that artistic soul fulfillment by investing a portion of that hard-earned cash in a movie. In particular, an X-rated
8 voyeuristic movie with lesbian sex and a couple of precisely placed handguns. For those of you who don’t keep up with your recommended bi-annual dental checkup visits, you’re fucking screwed.
9But Enough About Halitosis
Returning to our original topic—me—if it makes you feel any better, I didn’t know shit about making movies when I graduated from Yale. I knew I loved them and I knew they got me excited like nothing else.
10 All I knew is that I had made two of them (feature-length) already, without sound (and no one really wanted to see those), and I still wanted to make more.
11After Yale, I made
The Battle of Love’s Return fresh out of school for $8
K with Garrard, Frankie, and Oliver. Not wildly popular (though in the film I do look awfully handsome dodging elevator doors and prancing around in my tighty-whities), but it did get people interested enough to give us more money to make our next feature film. I even once sent a copy of
Battle of Love’s Return to the venerable Herr Fritz Lang
12 and received this prized letter in response:
Dear Mr. Kaufman:
Thank you for sending me The Battle of Love’s Return.
I watched it.
Sincerely.
Fritz Lang
That letter remains, to this day, one of my greatest treasures and contains one of the nicest things anyone has ever said about one of my movies.
Getting back to those lesbians and handguns I touched upon
13 earlier, I, along with the other producers on
Sugar Cookies, thought we had our golden ticket—just like
American Idol. I had written a pretty decent rough draft of a script that was, in a nutshell, an X-rated combo homage to Hitchcock’s
Vertigo14 and MacKendrick’s
Sweet Smell of Success.
15 Only this “fromage” to Hitch had lesbians and handguns—a surefire recipe for success. We were going to make so much money that we would be able finance our next five movies from the net proceeds on this baby. But you know what? Even with the boobs and the beavers and a whole lot of stuff that’s not so bad to look at, it ended up being a snore of a movie! Oliver tried to get me to dump the “older, more experienced director” early on and direct
Sugar Cookies myself when he saw the way things were going, but I didn’t listen to him.
Instead, we decided to let the older, wiser, more experienced Theodore Gershuny (who rewrote the script and made it even more boring) direct it. As part of digging ourselves into an even deeper hole, Gershuny’s wife Mary Woronov played the lead—and this was a mistake. Mary is a wonderful and talented person, but she did not perform to her highest ability under the direction of her husband, nor did he include enough erotic material in the film to entice the audience … or us horny young bastards.
In my gut, I knew this movie wasn’t reaching the potential it had on the page that made us all want to produce it in the first place. I knew the fact that the only thing the lovely, talented Mary and Lynn Lowry were stirring within me was the desire to take a nap with my sock, which is never a good sign. But I didn’t listen to my gut. I just kept going.
Sugar Cookies did end up contributing to film history, however. It is the only X-rated movie in history to lose money! One positive result of
Sugar Cookies was that Garrard L. Glenn, Jeffrey Kappelman (the Associate Producer for
Sugar Cookies), and Oliver Stone formed an alliance, brought in fundraisers and ended up raising the money for Oliver Stone’s first directorial effort,
Seizure.
16 Mary Woronov and Tom Sturges, the
Sugar Cookies Art Director, also joined the
Seizure team. Oliver’s amazing career was in bloom! Oliver had also invited me to start a movie company with him and to join him in his venture, but I politely declined and clung to my own producing dreams,
17 moving forward to make another shitty movie called
Big Gus, What’s the Fuss? and perpetuate my lifelong streak of fortuitous, genius career moves.
The Kaufman Curse strikes again.
But listen up, dear reader: you can use my shit as an example of what
not to do. Sit up straight and listen, because this is Produce Your Own Damn Movie Lesson #852 and it’s the most important. Trust your gut. PRODUCE WHAT YOU BELIEVE IN (and you will make a piece of art you believe in). DON’T COMPROMISE. If your heart is singing and your passion is flaring,
18 then follow it and don’t give in, no matter what, no matter how tough.
Mark Harris Finds art in the Passion, not Necessarily the Deal
Who is Mark Harris?
Mark Harris is one of the few Oscar-winning producers who has poured his blood, sweat and tears into producing such movies as Gods and Monsters, Crash,
19and Million Dollar Baby.
I can only produce movies I feel very strongly about.
The biggest mistake producers make is to make deals, not art with passion. If you just make the deals, you may be successful, but you won’t be satisfied.
Just like JFK and Nixon
Oliver Stone and I had many sleepovers as young lads growing up in New York City. I would bound over to his house, sleeping bag in hand, eager for the fun, sleepless nights, baseball cards, girl-bashing, and rough-housing
22 ahead of me. Inevitably, at some point in the evening, Oliver would find something I said or did that would piss him off or throw him into a rage and he would beat me up. This behavior was very helpful in honing the strong decision-making/occasional artistic-bullying skills he would later need as a film producer. Oliver owes me! I’d flee, crying, in the middle of the night, and run back home. This continued well on into the seventh grade. Speaking of the seventh grade…
How Steven Paul got Started at the Ripe Old Age of 12
Who is Steven Paul?
Steven Paul started as a 12-year-old child actor in Mark Robson’s movie, Happy Birthday, Wanda June, penned by Kurt Vonnegut, Jr. He eventually branched off into directing and producing his own damn movies, most recently Ghost Rider, starring yet another actor no one has ever heard of, Nicholas Cage. Steven Paul also manages such talent as Jon Voight and Gene Wilder. Currently, he is working with Steven Spielberg on producing Ghost in the Shell, a remake of a huge Japanese movie. Steven first met me when he was a student in my filmmaking class at the School of Visual Arts in New York City.
When I was a kid, I bought some video tape equipment. I carried a backpack and a battery pack and schlepped it everywhere. I was 12 years old. At that time, people did not have video. So there I was, this 12-year-old kid, making movies. It was extraordinary. And when I was acting in a movie called Happy Birthday, Wanda June, the director, Mark Robson, turned to me and said, “Steven, can I see some of the stuff you’re filming with the actors? I’d like to see how the rehearsals have been going.”
It was really one of the first “Behind the Scenes” that was ever done. I did it with my own little video camera. I started doing all these interviews and learned how to do stuff with my video camera. It doesn’t make a difference what format you work in—you’ve got to get the experience. In order to be a producer, you’ve got to learn how to direct, you’ve got to learn how to move the camera, you’ve got to learn how to move people around.
So that’s what I did. From the time I was 12 to around age 16, I learned so much just by seeing the camera movement, seeing what was in the background. I began to realize that you need to pay attention to details in the background. What about the lighting? What about the sound? I started doing the same thing with headphones. I edited my own damn films—I was writing, I was producing, I was directing, I was editing, I was doing the special effects. There wasn’t anything I didn’t do. I was becoming a complete and total filmmaker.
And then when I was ready to make my first film, I ran around to all the studios. No one wanted to finance me. They were all sitting around and they all claimed they were going to finance me, but nobody would. I was having meeting after meeting after meeting. And finally, at 18 I was fed up and I realized that I had to make my own damn movie.
23 I set a date and started putting it all
together. Before I knew it, I had raised a little money from doctors. One guy gave me $10K. He introduced me to another guy. That guy gave me $5K. Another guy gave me $7K, and before I knew it I had put together $300K, $400K, in cash.
Then I went around to all of the equipment houses and I said you’ve got to give me a little credit. I went around to all the laboratories and said you’ve got to give me a little credit, too. Everybody I spoke to decided to help me because I had nice energy. I was talking to these people and saying, “Listen, you are going to be part of my future movie career.”
Anyhoo, in my efforts to forge ahead in my own producing career, I moved to the opposite end of the spectrum. Not making slam dunks in an X-rated feature? Why not try a children’s classic for the whole family? A G-rated film adventure! And if the English language isn’t working for me, why not try shooting in Hebrew?! And thus I set out to produce
Ha Balash Ha’Amitz Shvartz (Big Gus, What’s the Fuss?). Pioneers far ahead of our time, we arranged a $200K co-production between the American and Israeli film industries, wherein each country was responsible for raising $100K. Michael Herz
24 and his wife Maris also invested in this soon-to-be abomination.
We were told that Israelis see every movie eight times, so we were bound to become their next national phenomenon. There would be two versions in two languages (which meant two negatives of the film). The movie would be shot in English and Hebrew (“Genius!” I thought. “Brilliance personified!”) and have all the hot Israeli stars of the day—heck, Menahem Golan
25 was producing! He would raise half of the money with the Israelis and we would raise the other half and together we’d have a mitzvah.
26Yet had there been a tag line for Big Ol' Gus, it would have included the words
Sheer Fucking Twisted as Your Mother Lunacy. Every bad decision I could possibly make, I made, in full and unabashed earnestness. Andy Lack, my co-producer, kept telling me I was crazy and to back out—he saw the writing on the wall, but I plunged onward, determined and stubborn, even though my guts were puking green goo.
Mr. Shabbat Shalom (Menahem Golan) dropped out for no apparent logical reason.
27 Our half of the money was already safely
stowed
28 in an Israeli bank. The only fly in the ointment was that there was no money from Israel to match our cash. The Israelis contributed “services” such as film developing and processing, valued at about 50 times what they actually were worth. So we were fucked, or
schtupped, as they say in Gaza.
Andy and I flew across the Atlantic to check up on our baby. As we arrived on the set, where all business was conducted in Hebrew, there was a lot of passion and intense gesticulation among the actors. Oh, I thought to myself, maybe Menahem dropping out wasn’t such a bad thing after all—things seem to be moving along quite nicely. They seem very dedicated to the material, very committed. And then I got closer:
HOT ISRAELI ACTOR (MOISHE): When is the goddamn fucking lunch break?! We have been on this set all day and not done one fucking thing. My ass is tired and these bitches better feed us soon.”
And then, turning to me, Moishe said: “I want more money, Mr. Producer!”
HOT ISRAELI ACTRESS (TOVAH): Shove your worthless piece of driveling shit back up your ass and then when it comes back out again, serve it on a plate to your mother.And then, turning to me, Tovah said: “I want more money, Mr. Producer!”
This nonstop shrieking tower of Hebrew babble went on for what seemed like 42 hours every day. Panicked, I checked up on our money that was oh-so-safely stashed in that Israeli bank account only to find that the checks had been
flowing
forth to
finance
29the nightmare unfolding in front of me. Apparently, Andy and I were thought of as the “rich Americans.” For the first time on foreign soil, I thought about blowing my fucking brains out.
Joe Dante Explains the Ideal Relationship
Who is Joe Dante?
Joe Dante is a top-drawer producer and director of horror and science fiction films. Some of his most notable works include The Howling, the soon-to-be-released The Hole, and the movies that brought the meaning of “cute” to a whole new level, Gremlins and Gremlins 2: The New Batch. Lloyd still owns them both on laser disc, and pops them in for a back-to-back marathon when he’s feeling gloomy.
As a director, if you find a producer who understands you and vice versa, you would be crazy to lose him/her, because every time you make a movie and put a new budget together there has to be a period of adjustment where you try to figure everybody out. Who’s a phony? Who’s not a phony? Who knows what they are talking about and who doesn’t? You can cut through all that after you’ve made a couple movies by sort of hand-picking people in all the different areas and saying “I like to work with this guy and this guy” and “I don’t particularly like to work with this guy. I don’t want to work with him again.” After you’ve made a couple of pvictures, you’ll find that you have put together this band of regulars in front of the camera and behind the camera who are all on the same wavelength and can even communicate in a nonverbal way. You don’t have to have long arguments about “Why did you do it this way?” or “What if we did it this way?” or “What should the ending be?” It’s very important that it’s a very personal relationship between a producer and a director. You must be on the same side; you can’t have one guy on the studio side and the other one on the creative side. It must be a union.
Back to the Big Fuss
Big Gus, what’s the fuss?! First of all, they were
dubbing the lines into English. Even the version shot in the English language itself was so unintelligible, it had to be dubbed from English into English,
30just like
Trainspotting. Michael Herz, Andy Lack, Pat, and I dubbed almost all of the voices. In fact, Michael Herz was so good at dubbing that he could have turned it into a career far more lucrative than continuously getting fucked in the ass by Troma for the past 35 years.
The whole mess fuss didn’t really do much for my friendship with our associate producer/fundraiser Andy Lack, who was encouraging me to follow my gut. But I denied it. What had I done? Against my much better judgment, I COMPROMISED. I PRODUCED SOMETHING I DIDN’T BELIEVE IN. And I paid the price.
Big Gus, What’s the Fuss? was released in Israel, but never in the United States. Someone did most certainly make money on it over there, but we never saw one fucking kosher cent. Our “partner,” the lab, ignored us when we wrote to them. The Israeli distri-butor ignored us when we wrote to them. I tried to transfer the negative to New York City, but the Israelis kept it. I never saw or had it in my possession again. If I had had it, Troma could have potentially made money distributing this film during the video boom of the 1980s, as we contractually held all worldwide rights (except for Israel). Video stores back then needed to fill their shelves. You could sell anything that moves—even bowel movements like Big Gus! But without the negative and the ability to make release prints, we were powerless to license the film to distributors.
Actually, somehow, someway, I did, however, eventually manage to get my hands on a 16mm print of the movie. (Where this print has since gone to, I’ve no idea. It probably burned itself in an act of making the world a better place.) We wrote to temple congregations all over the United States to gauge their interest in renting Big Gus. Only one of them took us up on the offer. A rabbi at a synagogue in Cincinnati wrote us back after hosting such a screening:
Dear Lloyd Kaufman and Troma Entertainment:
Your movie, Big Gus, What’s the Fuss? was screened as part of the adult/youth interaction program for our congregation yesterday evening. This movie is an absolute abomination of which you should be ashamed. No torah-carrying self-respecting Jewish man would ever produce this piece of drek you call art. Give us our money back! I am sorry Hitler didn’t incinerate you!
Regards,
Rabbi A. G.
P.S. What would your mother say if she saw this film?
Leave it to a rabbi to intuit that I have very little self-respect. The
Big Gus, “What’s the Mess?” mess, along with Rabbi A.G.’s guilt-trip-inducing letter, can be directly attributed to the origins of my becoming a self-hating Jew and later defiantly marrying a Methodist. I vowed that I would keep control over my negatives at least until the second coming. I learned that if you control the negative of your film, you control the rights to your movie and your movies will always take care of you.
31 Remember this, yet another cautionary tale, when you produce your own damn movie!
But heck, if
Big Gus has been released in the United States and become a sensation, it may have been a sort of modern-day Hannah Montana. However, had Andy Lack not escaped from my madness, he probably would not have gone on to run CBS News, then NBC News, and then SONY Music. As you can see, Andy Lack has been acronymically
32 at the apex of his game in a long career. Andy Lack certainly does not
lack (except for having to remember a nightmare production known as
Big Gus What’s the Fuss?).
First Oliver Stone, then Andy Lack. At least the Kaufman Curse is not contagious. There is only one target of its wrath and that target’s name is
moi! Everything does indeed happen for a reason, even if you can’t always see it right away.
33The irony in all of this? The day after the movie was set for release in Israel, the Seven-Day War broke out. The theatre screening Big Gus closed down and all filmgoing in Israel came to a halt. While bombs were going off outside the cinema, the mother of all bombs was being projected inside the theatre.
In the spirit of that twist of fate or act of God, here is my first set of rules for producing your own damn movie:
1. Don’t forget that when you’re hard up for cash to make your movie, anyone is an approachable ATM.
2. What is it that makes your movie so damn special? It doesn’t have to be X-rated like Sugar Cookies, but it has to have something compelling that makes it really unique and specific to you, the producer—not to mention the audience.
3. Get involved only in movies you feel truly passionate about. If it comes from the heart, it’ll show and it’ll work.
4. Trust your gut. If something nags at you, listen to it.
345. Producing films in Israel can be ass, unless you have a good local producer.
6. As with Oliver Stone and Andy Lack and Steven Paul, remember who you meet in this world and who you work with, as you never know where they are going or where they’ll end up. Always do your best to honor your professional relationships.
357. Everything happens for a reason. (Reader, I encourage you to think about The. Power. Of. Now.
36)
8. Alliteration is Also Ass.
9. Finally, forget what I said earlier about not listening to top ten lists. This top nine list is awesome!
Once upon a time a man lived through all of this. And he still. Wanted. MORE.
Mick Garris distinguishes the Masters of Horrors
Who is Mick Garris?
Mick Garris is a producer, filmmaker, and screenwriter known for his adaptations of Stephen King stories. He is also the mastermind creator behind Showtime’s Masters of Horror.
Whenever I’ve had a bad experience with producers, it’s because they just want to save money, or they just want to pull the plug, or they just want to
swing their dicks and show you how powerful they are. A good producer loves movies, loves what he’s doing, and helps you do what you’re doing. A bad producer is a guy who’s just in it to get chicks, to make money, and has no respect for the movie being made. A bad producer counts pennies rather than help you figure out how to save the money—for example, finding a way to collapse a few scenes into one location because you’re there for a day and then you’re out. Not all producers are creative producers and that’s fine, but they should be your partner, not your enemy.
Believe in what you are doing, but realize that if you’re going to take a stand, you may lose. I’m very proud of the first two years of my baby, Masters of Horror, but it was adopted and abused in its third year and I didn’t want to be a part of that. I understand why it had to change, but I didn’t feel that I needed to be involved in it. I’ve been in the business for a while now, so that’s easier to say. If it were my first show, I’d eat shit, I would take it. But I’m at the point now, thankfully, where I don’t have to eat shit all the time—though occasionally I still have to chew on a turd or two.
A good producer is a confidante, a cheerleader, someone who doesn’t say “no,” but rather, “What about if we did this or this?” Again, a good producer acts as my partner and not my teacher or my boss. He or she helps me find a way to do the things I need to do to make a great movie. For instance, maybe it’s not in the budget to have a crane or Steadicam everyday, but a good producer will come up with a way to help me do it. A good producer is as committed to the film as I am. We all share the same vision, enthusiasm, and excitement.